August 22, 2005

Interesting Ideas Afloat people thinking about how to better understand the blogosphere, through topic clouds and weighting of bloggers. People are asking for things they are interested in seeing, expressing concerns and making great observations about the overall problem. This continues a discussion I started there, and continued there, there, there and there.

The tag for this meme is linklove.

Ericka Menchen Trevino/technology and the social on Blog Rankings:

So should we have different metrics for different communities? Or is that too much? Maybe we think about including ratios of different metrics of participation, so that many kinds of social gestures can be included depending on styles of participation. A blog would still be weighted for some participation in a community? In other words, if someone comments a lot, and posts now and then, they might be as conversational as someone who comments little and posts a lot.

Ed Vielmetti in Yi-Tan: Jerry Michalski and Mary Hodder on "Link Love" (a post based on today's Yi-Tan call where I was a guest host talking about the problem of links as ranking mechanisms, and how we might find topic communities and weight things we value, like conversationalness):

Comment discussions are important and if we can solve the comment spam issue, might be a great metric for folding into measures of conversation.

Ed also suggests we look at energy as a measure:

J. LeRoy on Are You Really Atrios?

Peter Kaminski talks about the Network Map vs. Cocktail Party

That's a very interesting idea.. what that would look like I don't know, and many bloggers are pseudominious and don't really want their pictures all online (not all of us are exhibitionists, in fact few of us are across 14m blogs).

Posted by Mary Hodder at August 22, 2005 03:27 PM | TrackBack

Great post Mary!

A couple of comments based on some recent sojourns in the blogosphere: There is, among many, a bias against the notion of conversation in blogs. Many people view blogging as a means to convey information and that conversation does not constitute significant content. To paraphrase one dude (I refuse to refer to him as a gentleman) in the "Who Wants to Own Content?" post on Buzzmachine: blog conversation is for LiveJournal. All the rest is information.

There is the notion that information and conveying information, or pithy editorial commenting on "information," is what blogging should be. If we view how widely linked certain blogs happen to be, there is still more anecdotal evidence to support this.

So, when there is little understanding of the conversational value of blogging, there can be little support for how conversations in blogs (excluding LJ) are searched.

But, as you note, there are indivduals whose comments on various blogs are just as pertinent as their own blogging. At the moment, there's one way around that: sign the post with a hyperlink. Although some blogs do not allow that sort of coding in their comments (and it does take writing out the comment) Another way is to write a post directing someone to a particular blog post to read what you have said.

However, given the shifting mores of the blogosphere, this might be seen as self-promoting and boorish. I'm not sure.

I like Peter Kaminski's ideas on the cocktail party. I wonder, though, if he means he wants to literally see faces, or if he would be comfortable enough with the avatars that some people use in their "about me" profiles. My sense is that people are most uncomfortable when there is no profile and no avatar at all, while others are comfortable with a profile that provides some information as to make the author of the blog a real person without the need for an avatar. If there some information in the 'about me' section of a blog, most people will think the comment is spam...and, perhaps, this could be part of a metric for weeding out spamblogs, as few spambloggers actually bother with any sort of profile.

I'll be writing more on the avatar idea later. :-)


Posted by: Tish Grier at August 24, 2005 07:00 AM